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    <title>Hill Heat: Tag Kyoto</title>
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      <title>Investing in Sustainable Energy Options in Ukraine via the Kyoto Protocol</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;This webcasted panel discussion will examine opportunities for U.S.
businesses and others to invest in energy efficient and renewable energy
projects in Ukraine using the mechanisms of the Kyoto Protocol.  The
panelists will review opportunities for reducing energy waste in Ukraine&amp;#8217;s
major end-use energy sectors as well as the status and near-term potential
for developing Ukraine&amp;#8217;s solar, wind, biomass/biofuels, small hydro,
geothermal, and coal-mine methane resources.&lt;/p&gt;


&lt;em&gt;Panelists&lt;/em&gt;
	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Brian Castelli &amp;#8211; Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer,
Alliance to Save Energy&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;John Palmisano &amp;#8211; Chairman, &lt;span class="caps"&gt;IE3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;Rich Rosenzweig &amp;#8211; Chief Operating Officer, Natsource&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;Ken Bossong &amp;#8211; Co-Director, Ukrainian-American Environmental Association&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;(biographical information on each of the four panelists follows below)&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;This event, being co-sponsored by the U.S.-Ukraine Foundation and The
Washington Group, will be broadcast live on-line in English.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Persons planning to attend in person should arrive by 11:50 am&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;(Ukrainian Time: 6:00 pm &amp;#8211; 8:00 pm)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;U.S.-Ukraine Foundation
1701 &amp;#8220;K&amp;#8221; Street NW
Suite #903
Washington, &lt;span class="caps"&gt;DC 20006&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS ON&lt;/span&gt;-LINE:
Questions for the panelists can be e-mailed either in advance or during
the discussion to ulyana@usukraine.org.  Please type &amp;#8220;Kyoto/Energy Panel&amp;#8221; 
in the &amp;#8220;subject&amp;#8221; line.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;TO REGISTER AND FOR MORE INFORMATION&lt;/span&gt;:
For On-Site Attendance, RSVPs Required. Lunch will be served. Space is
Limited.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;RSVP&lt;/span&gt; by email to: ulyana@usukraine.org.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;The presentation will be broadcast live online. To register to watch
online, please visit &lt;a href="http://www.businessinukraine.org/PSM/signup_form.php"&gt;this link&lt;/a&gt;
and follow the instructions.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Speakers:&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;JOHN PALMISANO&lt;/span&gt;
Chairman, &lt;span class="caps"&gt;IE3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Since 1976, Mr. Palmisano has:&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Created 3 emissions brokerage and 1 emissions trading businesses,
including the first emissions brokerage firm, &lt;span class="caps"&gt;AER&lt;/span&gt;*X&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Advised the Hong Kong Stock Exchange on developing a &#8220;green&#8221; exchange&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Consulted to trade associations, the &lt;span class="caps"&gt;US EPA&lt;/span&gt;, the United Nations, the
World Bank, US Congress, the Russian government, the Ukrainian government,
the Canadian government and many US and international companies on both
emissions trading matters and developing &#8220;green&#8221; energy projects and
policies&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Helped create three &#8220;green&#8221; NGOs that focus on promoting emissions
trading&amp;#8212;one in Russia, one in Ukraine, and one in the United States&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Established emission brokerage offices and representatives in Moscow,
Kiev, Hong Kong, London, and Washington DC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Brokered more than 70 emission trades&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Served as an expert witness in public utility commission and legal
proceedings&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Managed the air pollution control program in California for an
engineering company&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Developed several major environmental policies while working at &lt;span class="caps"&gt;US EPA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Mr. Palmisano&#8217;s immersion into emissions trading began when he was a
manager at the United States Environmental Protection Agency where he
developed regulatory reforms dealing with air and water pollution control.
 He received U.S. &lt;span class="caps"&gt;EPA&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8217;s Gold Medal for his work on emissions trading.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;////////////////////////////////&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;BRIAN CASTELLI&lt;/span&gt;
Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Alliance to Save
Energy&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Brian T. Castelli is the executive vice president and chief operating
officer of the Alliance to Save Energy.  He has 30 years of national and
international experience in the energy field, including expertise in
energy efficiency, renewables, emission reductions, and electricity demand
reduction.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Prior to joining the Alliance in July 2005, Castelli ran his own energy
consulting firm. There he was the federal energy liaison for the
California Energy Commission; a principal with the Center for Energy and
Climate Solutions, and a consultant to both the Electric Power Research
Institute (EPRI) and the National Association of State Energy Officials
(NASEO).&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;As a presidential appointee, Castelli served as chief of staff to the U.S.
Department of Energy&#8217;s assistant secretary for energy efficiency and
renewable energy from 1994 to 2001.  He managed 550 staff and more than $1
billion in programs and research, development, and deployment initiatives
and directed the development and implementation of energy policies and
programs.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Castelli also led and participated in missions to Western Hemisphere,
European, and former Soviet Union countries and was also deeply involved
in developing energy-efficiency measures for the eventual closure of the
nuclear reactors in Chornobyl, Ukraine.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Prior to &lt;span class="caps"&gt;DOE&lt;/span&gt;, Castelli was appointed in 1988 by Gov. Bob Casey to the
Pennsylvania Energy Office (PEO), for three years as deputy director for
administration and public affairs and then as executive director, through
1994.  As executive director he ran the commonwealth&#8217;s energy policies and
programs, managed the state energy office and the Pennsylvania Energy
Development Authority, and took the lead on responding to energy
emergencies.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Notably, he developed a revolving loan fund for energy-efficiency measures
and a &#8220;Green Buildings&#8221; program for cutting energy use and costs in all
commonwealth-owned or operated buildings, and he drafted legislation for
and implemented an alternative fuel program.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Earlier in his career, Castelli was vice president of finance for The
National Center for Appropriate Technology; senior vice president and
cofounder of &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CEXEC&lt;/span&gt;; and financial analyst with the Federal Energy
Administration.  He has authored many articles, studies, and reports on
energy-related issues, served on various boards of directors, and made
presentations in many state, national, and international forums and
conferences.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Castelli holds two degrees from the University of Pennsylvania, a bachelor
of science in chemical engineering and an &lt;span class="caps"&gt;MBA&lt;/span&gt; in industrial/environmental
management from the university&#8217;s Wharton School.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;////////////////////////////////&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;RICH ROSENZWEIG&lt;/span&gt;
Chief Operating Officer, Natsource&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Richard Rosenzweig, Chief Operating Officer of Natsource (Washington, DC),
is responsible for the company&#8217;s global Advisory Services and Research
business unit.  He provides services to private firms, investment funds,
governments, and international financial institutions on all aspects of
climate change and renewable energy, including risk assessment and
management, market entry strategies, trading system design, domestic
policy development and international negotiations.  Mr. Rosenzweig has
extensive experience in all aspects of emissions trading and risk
management.  He represented several companies in the design of the U.S.
Acid Rain and NOx &lt;span class="caps"&gt;SIP&lt;/span&gt; Call Programs.  Mr. Rosenzweig was involved in the
first transaction of UK and Danish greenhouse gas allowances.  He joined
Natsource from the Washington law firm of Van Ness Feldman, where he was
Principal.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Mr. Rosenzweig served as Chief of Staff to the Secretary of Energy at the
U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) from 1993-1996.  His national policy
responsibilities included the development and coordination of &lt;span class="caps"&gt;DOE&lt;/span&gt; strategy
related to global climate change.  He played key roles in developing the
Clinton Administration&#8217;s Climate Change Action Plan, which incorporated
the first project-based mechanism to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and
the Secretary of Energy&#8217;s international energy, environmental, and
national security initiatives.  He also helped to negotiate voluntary
agreements between &lt;span class="caps"&gt;DOE&lt;/span&gt; and more than 600 electric utilities to achieve
voluntary greenhouse gas reductions in the &#8220;Climate Challenge&#8221; program.
Mr. Rosenzweig has written extensively on the greenhouse gas market, the
impacts of trading system design, and the role of technology in addressing
climate change.  He has a BA degree from Northeastern University and an MS
degree from American University in Political Science.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;////////////////////////////////&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;KEN BOSSONG&lt;/span&gt;
Co-Director, Ukrainian-American Environmental Association&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;A former volunteer in Ukraine with the U.S. Peace Corps (February 2000 &#8211;
January 2003), Ken Bossong presently serves as the coordinator of the
Sustainable Energy Coalition, a U.S. &lt;span class="caps"&gt;NGO&lt;/span&gt; comprised of 50+ U.S. business,
environmental, consumer, and energy policy organizations promoting energy
efficiency and renewable energy technologies.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Over the past 35 years he has served as the director of several national
U.S. environmental NGOs as well as worked as a member of several
organizations working on Ukrainian issues. He has degrees in law, public
administration, and environmental engineering.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Most recently he was a short-term scholar at the Kennan Institute of the
Woodrow Wilson Center where he conducted research on sustainable energy
policies and options for Ukraine.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;////////////////////////////////&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Major Financial Program Support provided by:&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Chopivsky Family Foundation
Dmytro &amp;#38; Jaroslava Jarosewycz Memorial Charitable Gift Fund
Heritage Foundation of First Security Federal Savings Bank (Chicago, IL)
The Maria Hulai Lion Foundaton
Self Reliance (NY) Federal Credit Union (New York City)
Selfreliance Ukrainian American Federal Credit Union (Chicago, IL)
Sutaruk Foundation&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Individuals:
Leonard &amp;#38; Helena Mazur
Marta Pereyma
Murray Senkus
Stefan &amp;#38; Wolodymyra Slywotzky&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <author>The Cunctator</author>
      <link>http://www.hillheat.com/events/2008/03/19/investing-in-sustainable-energy-options-in-ukraine-via-the-kyoto-protocol</link>
      <category>Policy</category>
      <category>renewables</category>
      <category>Ukraine</category>
      <category>Kyoto</category>
      <category>international</category>
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      <title>ExxonMobil Stands to Profit Handsomely in International Carbon Markets</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;ExxonMobil, the world&amp;#8217;s largest company by both revenue and market capitalization, has a place on the world stage comparable to a major nation-state (only 23 nations in 2006 had a &lt;span class="caps"&gt;GDP&lt;/span&gt; greater than &lt;a href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/snapshots/496.html"&gt;Exxon&amp;#8217;s revenues of $347 billion&lt;/a&gt;, which &lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080201/ts_afp/uscompanyoilearningsexxonmobil_080201164102"&gt;rose 7% in 2007&lt;/a&gt;). Only 31 nations exceeded its annual greenhouse gas emissions in 2004 [&lt;a href="http://mdgs.un.org/unsd/mdg/SeriesDetail.aspx?srid=749&amp;#38;crid="&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;UN MDG&lt;/span&gt; indicators&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/cdp_response.pdf"&gt;ExxonMobil &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CDP&lt;/span&gt; response&lt;/a&gt;]. If end-use emissions of ExxonMobil&amp;#8217;s products are included, its &lt;a href="http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/global_warming/exxon_report.pdf"&gt;carbon footprint of 1 billion metric tons of &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CO2&lt;/span&gt; equivalent&lt;/a&gt; is exceeded only by five nations.&lt;/p&gt;


David Sassoon at &lt;a href="http://solveclimate.com/blog/20080205/exxons-giant-carbon-footprint-could-stoke-more-profits"&gt;Solve Climate&lt;/a&gt; asked  Mario Lopez-Alcala, a senior analyst with Innovest Strategic Value Advisors, to estimate how the Kyoto Protocol impacts the company. Lopez-Alcala made some counter-intuitive discoveries.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Turns out that under Kyoto, Exxon is responsible for abating only 9 million out of the 138 million tons of its carbon footprint&amp;#8212;about 6.9% of its absolute exposure. Mario arrived at this figure by compiling a weighted average of the emissions targets affecting all Exxon operations around the world.
His estimate for what it costs Exxon to abate those emissions, assuming it had to purchase carbon credits? &lt;strong&gt;About $1 billion a year.&lt;/strong&gt; (He calculated net present value for the 2008-2012 Kyoto compliance period and applied a standard oil industry discount rate to arrive at the figure, based on an expected price of $28 per ton of carbon. He also had to add in to the calculation, abatement costs for reducing emissions to a baseline year.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;$1 billion annually is not a terribly large liability for a $400 billion company.&lt;/p&gt;


Furthermore:
&lt;blockquote&gt;There&amp;#8217;s also another aspect to Exxon&amp;#8217;s carbon footprint: &lt;strong&gt;the 129 million tons of emissions that it is not required to reduce.&lt;/strong&gt; It is an enormous carbon asset in a world in which carbon has a price, and it presents a tangible opportunity for enhancing profitability &amp;#8211; even beyond $40.6 billion.
By reducing those emissions &amp;#8211; most simply through reduced flaring, co-generation, heat recuperation, and carbon capture and sequestration &amp;#8211; Exxon could reap profits from selling carbon credits it generates. Mario reports that BP is the leader in the sector in taking advantage of these opportunities, which are tangible and positive already.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Sassoon concludes that from an investor (as well as moral) standpoint, ExxonMobil&amp;#8217;s &lt;a href="http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html"&gt;storied resistance to the science of climate change&lt;/a&gt; is a poor corporate position.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <link>http://www.hillheat.com/articles/2008/02/19/exxonmobil-stands-to-profit-handsomely-in-international-carbon-markets</link>
      <category>Policy</category>
      <category>Kyoto</category>
      <category>ExxonMobil</category>
      <category>corporate</category>
      <category>carbon markets</category>
      <category>oil</category>
      <category>gas</category>
      <category>carbon offsets</category>
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      <title>Bali: Australia Ratifies Kyoto Protocol</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;On the first day of the &lt;a href="http://www.hillheat.com/events/2007/12/03/united-nations-climate-change-conference-in-bali"&gt;United Nations Climate Change Conference in Bali&lt;/a&gt;, Kevin Rudd, the new prime minister of Australia &lt;a href="http://www.alp.org.au/media/1207/mspm030.php"&gt;ratified the Kyoto Protocol&lt;/a&gt;, leaving the United States and Kazakhstan the only signatories who have &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyoto_Protocol_signatories#Signed_but_not_yet_ratified"&gt;failed to ratify&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.alp.org.au/media/1207/mspm030.php"&gt;Rudd&amp;#8217;s statement&lt;/a&gt; begins:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Today I have signed the instrument of ratification of the Kyoto Protocol. This is the first official act of the new Australian Government, demonstrating my Government&#8217;s commitment to tackling climate change.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Ratification of the Kyoto Protocol was considered and approved by the first Executive Council meeting of the Government this morning. The Governor-General has granted his approval for Australia to ratify the Kyoto Protocol at my request.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Under United Nations guidelines, ratification of the Kyoto Protocol enters into force 90 days after the Instrument of Ratification is received by the United Nations. Australia will become a full member of the Kyoto Protocol before the end of March 2008.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <link>http://www.hillheat.com/articles/2007/12/03/bali-australia-ratifies-kyoto-protocol</link>
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      <category>Kyoto</category>
      <category>Australia</category>
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      <title>The Kyoto Protocol: An Update</title>
      <description>Panel I
	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/wat071107.pdf"&gt;Harlan Watson&lt;/a&gt; &amp;#8211; special representative and senior climate negotiator, Bureau of Oceans and International Environment and Scientific Affairs, State Department
Panel II    &lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/dir071107.htm"&gt;Elliot Diringer&lt;/a&gt; &amp;#8211; director of international strategies, Pew Center on Global Climate Change&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/tho071107.htm"&gt;Margo Thorning&lt;/a&gt; &amp;#8211; managing director, International Council for Capital Formation&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Dr. Watson and the subcommittee chair &lt;strong&gt;Faleomavaega&lt;/strong&gt; had a long discussion. Dr. Watson defended the administration&amp;#8217;s largely voluntary approach. Rohrabacher repeated his complaints that &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CO2&lt;/span&gt; is not dangerous to human health and that the focus on climate change is taking resources away from fighting pollution.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;4:24 PM  &lt;strong&gt;Diringer&lt;/strong&gt; The US-CAP platform. The Bali conference will be the stage for new negotiations on 2012 commitments. Kyoto was a major milestone, but just one stage. We have no expectation the US will ever ratify it.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;4:34 PM &lt;strong&gt;Thorning&lt;/strong&gt; Cap and trade is bad.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;4:41 PM  &lt;strong&gt;Manzullo R-IL&lt;/strong&gt; We&amp;#8217;re seeing the problems with cap and trade already. One of the manufacturers in Spain is being displaced by a factory in Morocco which is not covered by the system. People not covered by it would be the beneficiaries.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Diringer&lt;/strong&gt; The type of effect doesn&amp;#8217;t seem to be a function of cap-and-trade, but is related to any regulatory control. That&amp;#8217;s what the importance of international agreements.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Manzullo&lt;/strong&gt; How do you make the effort?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Diringer&lt;/strong&gt; You start by being serious.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Manzullo&lt;/strong&gt; We&amp;#8217;re down to 3% in the export of machine tools. Setting the right example. I don&amp;#8217;t think that works.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Manzullo&lt;/strong&gt; The nations that buy things go with a more reliable supplier. It&amp;#8217;s &lt;span class="caps"&gt;ITAR&lt;/span&gt; free. Using the white-hat techniques slams in our face.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thorning&lt;/strong&gt; Global energy prices are not likely to fall in the foreseeable future.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Manzullo&lt;/strong&gt; What can you offer China and Morocco, countries that don&amp;#8217;t respect the environment?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thorning&lt;/strong&gt; Let&amp;#8217;s say we have a coal-fired boiler that 35% efficient. If China wants that, if we knew they&amp;#8217;d protect our intellectual property, we&amp;#8217;d be more likely to sell them the boiler.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Diringer&lt;/strong&gt; We have various means of export support and promotion and we can make that assistance conditional.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;4:48 PM &lt;strong&gt;Rohrabacher&lt;/strong&gt; The air in China is murdering children. That has nothing to do with climate change. If all of the goals of the Kyoto Protocol are met, would that reverse the climate change trend that are so alarming people?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thorning&lt;/strong&gt; It would have virtually no impact on changing the climate.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Diringer&lt;/strong&gt; Noone contends the Kyoto standards are sufficient.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rohrabacher&lt;/strong&gt; Why should we join the Kyoto protocol then?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Diringer&lt;/strong&gt; I&amp;#8217;m not aware of anyone advocating joining the Kyoto protocol. China&amp;#8217;s implementing many environmental standards that have climate emissions benefits, but are based on national drivers. It&amp;#8217;s important that we understand those motivations. The steps we would take to reduce greenhouse gas emissions will also reduce the production of conventional air pollutants. There is common ground.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rohrabacher&lt;/strong&gt; I think there is room for common ground. There are choices that people make as to whether or not there will be reductions in &lt;span class="caps"&gt;NOX&lt;/span&gt;, which I understand is harmful to human health. Some scientists claim more &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CO2&lt;/span&gt; will produce more plant growth and make people&amp;#8217;s lives better. I would like to put on the record an article by James Taylor at the Heartlands Institute.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;What is your view on using nuclear energy?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;D: Nuclear energy is a major component of our electricity production. We expect it to remain a major part of our production mix.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rohrabacher&lt;/strong&gt; Might I suggest that you personally look at the high-pressure gas reactor? The traditional objections of environmentalists don&amp;#8217;t apply. It actually eats plutonium. The last thing we want to do is to promote technologies to clean the air but help people drop bombs on us. There are some alternatives.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;4:57 &lt;strong&gt;Faleomavaega&lt;/strong&gt; What about poor countries?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thorning&lt;/strong&gt; Energy is an essential to reducing poverty. I think it&amp;#8217;s important how we balance society&amp;#8217;s resources. I want to see more resources going to provide energy that developing countries need. For about $18 billion a year we could provide &lt;span class="caps"&gt;LPG&lt;/span&gt; stoves to millions of people.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Our tax code has slowed depreciation. We have about the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. I hope we&amp;#8217;ll look at the rate of capital cost recovery.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;5:04 &lt;strong&gt;Diringer&lt;/strong&gt; The UN convention establishes the principle of common but differentiated responsibilities. There&amp;#8217;s an understanding that one size does not fit all. We would favor a flexible framework.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I think the US is the single most influential force globally on tackling this issue. The EU has pledged unilaterally to reduce emissions. A very positive indication from the United States is necessary.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thorning&lt;/strong&gt; One of the things we need to keep our eye on is that the EU is not likely to meet their targets. What I see happening is lip service. I see the EU as not successful as it&amp;#8217;s currently set up. Perhaps sectoral targets without necessarily having mandatory requirements. I think we can induce China, like the Marshall Plan.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;5:09 &lt;strong&gt;Diringer&lt;/strong&gt; I think it&amp;#8217;s premature to conclude that the EU will not meet its Kyoto target. The &lt;span class="caps"&gt;EEA&lt;/span&gt; estimates it will achieve its targets. It won&amp;#8217;t meet it entirely with domestic reductions, but also by relying on the flexibility mechanisms built into the Kyoto Protocol. The emissions trading scheme is only one of the mechanisms the EU is using, and it is in the learning phase. The biggest problem in the trial run was an over-allocation of emissions allowances.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;5:13 &lt;strong&gt;Faleomavaega&lt;/strong&gt; What do you expect will happen at Bali?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thorning&lt;/strong&gt; I think the US will push the Asia-Pacific Partnership mechanisms, which I think is the right way to go.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;5:16 &lt;strong&gt;Rohrabacher&lt;/strong&gt; Scripps has a beautiful climate change institute worth millions of dollars. Scientists on the dole. When that money should have been on the children of China who are going to have emphysema by the time they&amp;#8217;re 30 years old by breathing in that rotten air. It&amp;#8217;s like a huge black hole. If scientists say there will be more wildfires in California, that&amp;#8217;s probably a $2 million research grant sucked away. I know people in California if they got those $2 million would dramatically impact air quality. There are 100s, thousands of these scientists taking this money. People say &amp;#8220;Well, the issue is closed&amp;#8221; &lt;i&gt;swaying and wagging his arms&lt;/i&gt;. They&amp;#8217;re ignoring the critics the scientists. $37 billion is a &lt;strong&gt;huge&lt;/strong&gt; amount of money. It seems that the poltics of this thing has invaded the scientific community. With that said, I am hopeful. I do believe in science. I do believe in human progress. Perhaps we can come up with technologies that can clean the air, even though I think the scare tactics are not justified.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <author>The Cunctator</author>
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      <category>Policy</category>
      <category>Kyoto</category>
      <committee>House Foreign Affairs</committee>
      <subcommittee>Asia, the Pacific, and the Global Environment</subcommittee>
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